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Since this is a work of fiction, it is unclear as to what actually happened to O'Brien and what he fabricated for the stories. How does this affect your thoughts on the text? Does knowing that it is fiction change your opinion or feeling about any of the work?
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ReplyDeleteI think that because the story is fiction its harder to tell when he exaggerates. But at the same time if you know even a little history on the war it's pretty easy to differentiate. Some things he most likely had to exaggerate so that the story was more interesting. If O'Brien just told it like it was the book would be very bland.
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ReplyDeleteI feel that the reading is sometimes confusing based on the fact that he says some of it is not true. I never really know which characters are real or not. What really confused me was when he talked about Normon Bowker. He says that he used his real name but I can not tell which other characters were real either. There were also sometimes he said he would leave things out of his story. So what can you believe? What information from him can be reliable?
Mike Lockney
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ReplyDeleteI don't think it really makes a difference. He probably took real events and made them more interesting. I still this the stories accurately showed the hardships pof war and what the soldiers had to go through when they were there. I still like it. Most stories today are fiction anyway so why would this be any different.
Alisha Perry
Since this story is fiction, it does affect my thoughts on the text. I like the book but since some of it is not true, I am unsure of what to believe. It makes me think of what to believe in his text, and what not to believe. My opinion on the book is that it is a fairly interesting book. The only thing that I dislike, Is the fact that it may be untrue.
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Stuart
PRIMARY POST: The fact that I don't know what is actually true and what is fiction, is kind of confusing. I have mixed feelings on this because I would like to feel emotions for these people, but I am not sure whether it is real or not. It affects my thoughts on this text because I am not sure what to think. Knowing this is fiction does in fact change some opinions but not by much because this has most likely happened to someone in past wars.
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The book is has to many people tring to tell the stories. The book is very had to tell what is true and what is fabricated. I think most of the book is frabrcated due to some of the stories. The book is not good because it is to hard to try and tell fact from fiction. O brien has to many different stories trying to tell what he thinks happened and what he thinks happened.
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ReplyDeleteSince this is a work of fiction, I cannot tell which stories are real and which ones are fabricated. This makes the book less interesting to me because it makes it hard to believe. It does make my opinion worse because it is much less interesting.
Sarah hood
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ReplyDeleteThis affects me when I'm reading. I'm not fully sure if the things he wrote are all true or not. But I believe most of the stuff are true. O'Brien said himself in "Notes" that he made some events up to go along with the story, to help clarify and explain it better. Knowing as fiction, I still believe some stuff in the book. About the experiences he went through and the people he was with.
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ReplyDeleteIt does change my opinion, but I'm sure O'Brien still had to go through a lot. Plus his opinions and thoughts in the story were probably mostly true. I'm assuming that most of what was fabricated was events used to exoress the emotions that he was feeling anyways because of the war. Changing or adding stories or events is a good way to increase the readability of the work as a whole and allows for a better story, although it also keeps you guessing what's real and what's not. And and and, $20 says that the part about the shit is fake.
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ReplyDeleteSince the work is fiction, it does not affect my thoughts on the text because he was in the war and might have been lying on some things. He was I the war and many things happen at war that are out of the ordinary. Just being in the war is a difficult task to overcome. I still believe that o'Brien had a many stories about the war. He was still a hero and lived a hard time during the war.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I feel as though it doesnt make much of a difference. The author gets his point across in his descriptions of the highs and lows in his experiences. This is basically to give a point of view of a soldier, and he was a soldier. He says what is necessary to get you to feel the same way he felt. The author makes you go through some of his experiences with maybe some exaggeration but in the end it's to make you understand what he has gone through in his life at war.
Dclicks aka Dominic Calicchio
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ReplyDeleteWhen ever I read read a book watch a movie or tv, I never think it is real. I never go into something saying wow this looks really interesting I wonder if it happened in real life. Because of this, the fact that some if it is fake does not effect me at all. I like the fact that I really have to think to find out if it is real or fake. The story really keeps me or the edge of my seat that's why it is an easy read.
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ReplyDeleteKnowing this is fiction makes a difference because some things he might of not done. He might of not gone to Canada an that might of been someone else. You don't know if all these people are real or not. The story is still kind of real though because he might of just not put in the peoples name. Maybe he might of not killed anyone an he just put it in to make the story interesting.
Primary post: since this is a work of fiction, it confuses me on what it believable. Some of the events might be exaggerated in order for them to sound more dramatic. I am not really sure what to feel because if some of the characters and events are made up then my emotions would change. I'm not sure whether to tell if some events are true or made up. My opinion doesn't too much because the book is be based off of true events. It is still hard to be sure what to believe
ReplyDeleteSince it is partly not true the story is hard to tell what is true or not. The author did a good job disguising the fake from the facts. Since part of it is not true I have less sympathy for the tragic events of the story because they might be false. Also it is confusing trying to distinguish what is not true.
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ReplyDeleteSince the information of what actually happened to Tim O'Brien is
unclear it affects my thoughts on the text. It makes it seem less
real knowing that some of the writing is not true. Also since it is
fiction i feel like I don't know as much information about the war as
I thought. Knowing that there is true and fiction information in the
story it makes me wonder how much of the story is actually true. Also
I thought that a lot of the information was interesting because they
were true, and since i found out some of them aren't I think that
makes those things less interesting.
Kayla Joliat
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ReplyDeleteSince this story is fiction it is unclear as to what actually happened to O'Brien. He may have fabricated parts to make them more interesting and t keep the reader interested. This affects my thought on the tex because I don't know what is real and what is fake. Knowing this is fiction changes my opinion on the book because I will not believe most of writing and will not know the truth.
Kelly
I agree with what Alisha said. Although he may have exaggerated some things, it made the book more readable and interesting. I liked he way described all of the different situations in the book.
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Stuart
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ReplyDeleteWhether it is fabricated or not a lot of these situations he wrote in the text happens all the time. He writes about how the war shows the paranoia of a lot of the soldiers and how their fears and emotions can overcome their mind. Even though it says fiction, it is still a way that Tim O'brien shows the good and bad of a war. It does affect my thoughts but in a positive way because now I know how all these soldiers have to live and put up through.
Bilal Rabbani aka Arab mon$y
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ReplyDeleteI agree with dclicks. Dom said that he was trying to get the point of being a soldier. The author was trying to tell us what a solder does in the war and how a soldier might feel.
I don't think the fact that the story is fiction should change the way you feel about the book. The stories are still good and they still show the hardships and what it's like to be in war. Even though parts may be fabricated it's still believable and accurate to what happened in Vietnam.
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ReplyDeleteO'brien did not fabricate every instance of this novel, but he admits that some of the occurrences were not true. This affects me negatively as a reader. Personally I would prefer a nonfiction work because it exaggerations or fiction really take away from the depth of the book. Anyone can make a war story full of sorrow and killing. But when it is real, a full fledged battle, that that author went through, I feel more emotion.
PRIMARY POST- I can't really tell what's fabricated in this book and what's real. I think Tim Obrien fabricated the stories a little too much to actually tell what's the truth and what's exaggerated. I don't think that the guy actually drowned in shit. I just think that Tim Obrien exaggerated that part to make the story seem a little more interesting. I personally didn't like the book because I couldn't tell what was real and what was fake.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Stathis, although it does make the story seem more interesting but you can't rely on the book for what happened in Vietnam because he fabricated the story so much.
Paige
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ReplyDeleteI do not agree with rj because he thinks the life of the soldier in this story was fabricated. This can be the life of a soldier it is very difficult and emotional. he was trying to get across about what the life of a soldier was like in the Vietnam war.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Nora, the fact that some of the story is fiction makes it very confusing. It's hard to tell what to believe from the story, and that makes it hard to fell a certain way about a character. For an example it said Norman gave up on saving Kiowa, but then later O'Brien said that this was no true. It makes you feel two totally different ways roars that character.
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ReplyDeleteIn response to Alisha's comment, I'd have to say that simply isn't true. The fictional stories will NOT be as accurate as showing what life was like in the war, simply because the author wasn't there fighting. For example, he/she doesn't know what it really feels like to kill, if they haven't done it before. Thus, that author's description of death will be less vivid than the author who was there and wrote about a real death.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Paige , sometimes it's hard to tell when it's fake or not. Like when they're telling stories it's hard to tell if he's exaggerating or not. Which makes it hard to interpret the stories.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with mikaela because I think that it is difficult to figure out if the author is exaggerating or if he is telling the truth. I also think that The book would be quite boring, and it might get repetitive. Also i think that history in general if there is too much at once it can get uninteresting.
Stat his, secondary, in response to Onaje and Bilal's posts.
ReplyDeleteLike Bilal said, the stories are realistic. Whether Tim actually experienced item or not does not change the fact that during that time, tons of soldiers went through similar things. Onaje, I see what you're sayin, but if it wasn't as real, it just wouldn't be as cinematic and packaged as a book. Anyone can write a war story, but can anyone write one this good and still be able to say that many of the stories are true?
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ReplyDeleteI feel that the reading is sometimes confusing based on the fact that he says some of it is not true. I never really know which characters are real or not. What really confused me was when he talked about Normon Bowker. He says that he used his real name but I can not tell which other characters were real either. There were also sometimes he said he would leave things out of his story. So what can you believe? What information from him can be reliable?
Mike Lockney
I agree with all the above statements The characters are to hard to tell who is real and the stories are by to many authors. The book is no the best due to all this
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ReplyDeleteI agree with mike lock. I agree that the book can be confusing. I also agree that it is hard to tell which parts in the book are real or not.
Secondary post - I agree with Nora. It is true that we don't fully know what's true and what's not. But, there are events in the book that actually happened.
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ReplyDeleteDom I agree with what you are saying completely. I like how it is the view point of a soldier as well. I also like how had exaggerates somethings it keeps it interesting.
Delmo6
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ReplyDeleteKnowing that this story is fiction it makes it sometimes hard to believe that what he is saying is true. Although it doesn't change my opinion on the story because i believe that what he is saying has been based on a situation that has really happened even if it was exaggerated. I think i would have liked the book more if I could believe that what he was saying was true. There are some parts of the book that I know are exaggerated. One part i think that was exaggerated is the story of how Kiowa died.
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ReplyDeleteEven thought this story is fiction it still tells true things about war. O'Brien did exaggerate a lot and had things in the story that no one had answers. Knowing that this story is fiction does not change my feelings about the story. It does not change my opinion either because O'Brien made it known that he knew what he was talking about. There's only few things in the story that sounded unreal.
Brianna
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Dom. The author gets his point clearly. He tells what he felt like in Vietnam. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Danny
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Nora. The book and be confusing especially because there are some unrealistic parts. It makes the book less interesting at points. I think i would have liked the book more if i could believe all of what is written is true.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Dominic. O'Brien did exaggerate some of his experiences but he did it to make you feel what he felt. Also he wanted people to know how it felt like to be a soldier. It makes you realize how painful and fearsome the war was.
- Arup C.
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ReplyDeleteKnowing that this story is fiction really changes my feelings about the story. We don't know what's true and what's not. I think that a nonfiction story would definitely be more interesting. That way we would know that it all actually happened. I think it's kind of dumb to write a fiction book about a war.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with what Mike said. It does get kind of confusing when you don't really know what's true or not. I also think it's annoying. Why can't the author just write a true story?
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Terese. Knowing that the story is fiction means we dont know what is true and what is false. and it can be annoying becasue there might be some times where you just want to know the truth.
Kelly
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Nora when she says you feel emotions for these characters. But I also agree with Dom when he says even if it's not real the author gets his point across, letting us know how bad the ear actually was
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Bilal. It still shows the things that happen in war an the good an bad things of war. It shows the emotion of war.
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ReplyDeleteKnowing that this story is fictional did not have that large of an impact on me. It actually makes me feel a little better knowing that some of the very graphic material may not have been true. Either way, I think I would feel the same way about this book regardless of it being fiction or non fiction. There are points in the book where I wish I knew the truth behind the story. In a way it is a bit annoying, but I don't really think that it had an effect on me.
-Whitney
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ReplyDeleteKnowing this story is fiction does not really affect my opinion about it. Even though O'Brien fabricated he uses enough detail to make it seem like its all real. Just because O'Brien has not been to war he explains the time the soldiers spent in war like he was there with them. I think the way O'Brien told the story made it more exciting so you could feel apart of it.
Alex